FOXNews.com - You Decide 2004 - Bush Strikes Back at Kerry Over Iraq
FOXNews.com - You Decide 2004 - Bush Strikes Back at Kerry Over Iraq
Now that Kerry has admitted he too would have gone to war with Iraq, what leg does the left have to stand on? At least we know ONE policy of Kerry's ;)
Now that Kerry has admitted he too would have gone to war with Iraq, what leg does the left have to stand on? At least we know ONE policy of Kerry's ;)
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I agree Kook. Kerry has no leg to stand on.
Here is a quote he made on Hardball with Chris Matthews which stands in sharp contrast to his current position, but as Bush says we still have a while to go before the elections.
MSNBC’S CHRIS MATTHEWS: "Are you one of the anti-war candidates?" (MSNBC’s "Hardball," 1/6/04)
KERRY: "I am - Yeah." (MSNBC’s "Hardball," 1/6/04)
Here is a site that has compiled a list of Kerry quoets over the past few years. It is simply extraordinary. He has taken every possible position.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6570.htm
"Bush Cut Grants for Fire Depts. By $246 Million in Next Year’s Budget, Though Grants Had Only Supplied “10% of…Need.” [Department of Homeland Security, 2005 Budget in Brief, www.dhs.gov; Intl. Assoc. of Firefighters, www.iaff.org]
Bush Cut Funding for State and Local Homeland Security Grants by $800 Million. [Department of Homeland Security, 2005 Budget in Brief, www.dhs.gov; CQ, www.cq.com]
Bush Allowed the GOP Congress to Cut the Federal Airport Screener by Thousands. [HR 2555, 2003; Transportation Security Administration, www.tsa.gov; AP, 4/30/03; Washington Post, 5/1/03]
Bush Implemented “Inherently Dangerous” Shipping Container Security Program That Fails to Sufficiently Screen for Radiation. [Sunday Telegram, 3/30/03; House HS Cmte Democrats, America at Risk, 1/04]
Bush Cuts in Port Security Grant Funding by 75 Percent, $150 Million, in Next Year’s Budget. [Budget of the United States, www.omb.gov; Journal of Commerce, 3/24/03]
Bush And Ashcroft Have Consistently Cut COPS Program. Bush proposed cuts in the Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS) program in 2002, 2003, and 2004. Bush’s 2005 budget cuts the program by 87 percent. And, according to a secret OMB memo, Bush and Ashcroft plan to cut the COPS program by $43 million in 2006 and freezes funding at that level through 2009. [House Budget Committee Democratic Caucus, 2/19/04]
Bush “Backed Down” on EPA Plan to Secure Chemical Plants Under Pressure from Industry. [Washington Post, 10/3/02; Richmond Times Dispatch, 3/23/03]
Port Security Shows Serious Gaps. Seven million cargo containers arrive in US ports each year, but as little as 2 percent of those are screened. The US has 361 commercial ports. [Sarasota Herald-Tribune, 7/10/03; Portland Press Herald, 7/5/03]
Less Than 10 Percent of the Nation’s Border Agents Secure the Northern Border. Only 1,000 border agents patrol the United State’s border with Canada, compared to 9,500 that patrol the nation’s southern border. [Deseret Morning News (Salt Lake City), 7/20/03]
80 Percent Of Federal Agencies Face Homeland Security Challenges With Insufficient Information From DHS. Federal auditors report that most federal agencies are faced with operational challenges in responding to code-orange alerts issued by DHS. For example, 80 percent of agencies indicated that insufficient information on threats was an “operational challenge.” [www.gao.gov, 2/04]
Under Bush, Cargo on Passenger Airlines Remains Unscreened. On average, half of a plane’s hull on any passenger flight is filled with cargo, and 22 percent of the nation’s air cargo travels on passenger flights. The Department of Homeland Security’s Inspector General Clark Kent Ervin told lawmakers that the TSA screeners and privately contracted airport workers "performed about the same, which is to say, equally poorly." [The Union Leader, 4/23/04; AP, 2/08/04, The Hill, 4/30/03]
Chemical Plant Attack Could Endanger More Than a Million Americans. The Department of Justice characterizes the threat of terrorism at one of the nation’s chemical facilities as “both real and credible,” and emphasizes that a chemical plant attack could be more dangerous than one at a nuclear power plant. The GAO reported, however, that 123 chemical plants are located in urban areas where a toxic release could endanger over a million people in a “worst case” scenario. [GAO; 2/23/04; Democratic Members of the House Select Committee on Homeland Security, America at Risk, 1/04]
Mayors Reported That Cities Have Made “Little Or No Progress” in Many Homeland Security Funding Categories in the Last Year. A US Conference of Mayors report suggested that for some programs there has been “little or no progress” in administering funds since the first survey in August 2003. The report also found that “only about one quarter of the survey cities” had received critical infrastructure/ first responder funding, the exact same number of cities that reported receiving funding 5 months earlier. [US Conference of Mayors, Third Report the Nation, 6/25/04]
Spread the word. Poll after poll shows that Kerry trumps Bush in nearly every category except homeland security. People need to see that Bush is far from infallible in this department, and, as the stats above show, has actually taken steps to weaken security in key areas.
Oh, and George? Sorry to interrupt you while you're busy shredding the Constitution, but where are those complete records of your military service that you promised to release?"- Robert Montgomery
However accurate they may be at times, you shouldn't use Fox News as a source. Reuters is your best bet.
Craigp: in order to remain fair, I must post the actual interview transcript which occured. You can find it here: http://www.topangaonline.com/wboard/messages/5775.html
Anonymous [first]: Sir, I've ONLY been addressing Homeland Security and the war. I don't agree with a great deal of what Bush and his administration have done in office, but I have no reason to think that Kerry will do anything different--yet. But after refreshing my memory on all of these things, I will give you this: I really wouldn't mind being convinced that Kerry is good to go.
Anonymous [second]: Foxnews is as credible a source as Reuters, AP, CNN, etc. The facts are what to be presented. The article I posted presented the facts--it is up to the reader to put the facts together and form an adequate opinion.
Kook, you might find this story intersting as well, note that the author Joseph Farah is neither a republican nor a democrat.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39952
Kook you really should read this one too,
http://www.anncoulter.org/, her 8/11/2004 piece.
SHe lays it out so perfectly, and imo she is right on the money.
Fox News=lame
Ann Coulter=gross
dvd
Craigp: Those two articles are a bit too slanted in my opinion. As far as the meat of both issues, the Swift boat controversy is still playing out in the media. I think it's something that shouldn't be overlooked, however, it clearly shouldn't be the focus of the media right now.
dvd: Fox News is not lame, however, it does obviously present ideas and opinions which are conservative. I try and watch The Factor nightly, though, I tend to flip between it and Hardball. As far as Ann Coulter is concerned, yeah, I tend to think she's a bit out there.
kook, I thought you might find this interesting, Kerry thoughts on taxes.
http://www.atr.org/pressreleases/2004/pr-Kerry-8-13-04.htm
Ah, but it presents those ideas and opinions as fact way too often...thus the lameness. I have an extreme case of dislike (I don't like to use the word hate so I won't) towards Bill O'Reilly, but I'll admit he is good for some laughs now and then.
craigp: We've known from the beginning that electing Kerry into office will most certainly raise taxes. I won't completely dismiss the idea of raising taxes, however, I do think that it's dishonest of Kerry to say he will only tax the rich when his goals could not be satiated without also taxing the middle-class.
anonymous: You'd have to cite a case. I've actually only watched The Factor about a dozen times, or so, but I've never seen anything like you suggest. He *is* opinionated about the subjects he's most passionate about, but he tends to allow the audience to make decisions for themselves; especially when he has the more controversial guests on. For example, when Alec Baldwin was on the program, it was clearly a "draw" as debates go. And O'Reilly actually agreed with some of the issues Baldwin had. Another case was with Micheal Moore--O'Reilly was never unfair to him, in fact, it was quite the opposite. Moore used fallacious debating tactics (e.g., his rediculous use of semantics at the beginning when he likened President Bush to a pathological liar) throughout the debate. O'Reilly didn't have to make him look like a buffoon: he did this all himself. Either way, I think O'Reilly presents the facts accurately and in sync with what's really going on in the world. I DO agree that he is opinionated, but being the good viewer I am, I can cut through that as with any other journalist. Most importantly though, his show is interesting. He seems to always have a relevent guest on and the discussions are kept in line and germane to current events. And yes, sometimes he's good for a few laughs--and sometimes at his expense.
I should have been more clear -- the O'Reilly Factor is an opinion based program, and of course he's entitled to it. My earlier statement about turning opinion into fact was directed more towards Fox's news reporting. I can cite two cases specifically (one involving the last election, the other involving a whistleblowing reporter) but because I don't feel like typing out a lengthy expose at the moment (I know, I know, cheap excuse, but I'm honestly busy), I'd suggest checking out the poorly made but nonetheless fascinating documentary Outfoxed, followed by the much better documentary The Corporation.
Most or all of these anonymous posts have been dvd, btw...I keep forgetting to leave my name at the end.
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